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Ellen Degeneres is not quite sure what the hype is about exercising.

The way she sees it, it’s just people torturing themselves.

“If you’ve ever seen what happens, they’re not inside, they’re outside,” she says of modern exercise classes. “They’re outside a lot, I drove by a class the other day and people are carrying weights on their back while they sprinted down the street. We did something similar when I was growing up — it’s called shoplifting.”

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