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  • CE - Apr 01 2008

    i subscribe to vogue. i got this in my mail and thought that lebron james was just being a big dork. he looks like he's having fun. i doubt anybody told him to make an ape face, his pose seems so unposed and playful it's almost undignified. same for gisele, she looks silly and giddy. i guess that's why they chose it, it's different. fresh and spontaneous and not self-conscious, just two celebrities dorkin out.

    by the by i dont think they have to make him look ten times her size with some kind of manipulative perspective. he probably is ten times as wide as her. after all she is anorexic and he is ripped like what. so ripped.

    you could say their size discrepancies make a really scary gender statement quite apart from race. pop culture is constantly placing weak, starving woman beside rambo-like men. the white men look like gorillas; skin color doesn't matter in terms of men being cast as rapacious beasts and women being cast as helpless, wan prey. the totally exaggerated differences in male and female anatomy constitute the tension, the sick sex appeal and definite creepiness in this photo and millions of others. the picture tells a thousand words: women are constantly being literally belittled. made diminutive. the king kong / fay wray dynamic is at work in pop culture everywhere, no matter what color the players are. this is not to say the skin colors in this photograph are not provocatively paired and compared.

    i dont know what my point is. that was an interesting article. you should read it and tell me what you think. now, is the pic rascist? that is a sticky question you can answer for your self. me i'd say sexist first. but it's so typical, like, whatever.

    • ehansen - Apr 01 2008

      I think you are racist for saying he has an ape face and morally repugnant for suggesting that racism is subjective.

    • CE - Apr 01 2008

      a) i didn't say he had an ape face, i said i don't think anyone posed him as an ape, they didn't say, "okay, now do king kong!" as the article suggests (or questions).
      b) all opinions are subjective, but truth is not.
      c) you are a sarcastic punk anywayz.

    • textured - Apr 01 2008

      when i worked at dots cafe in pdx, they had a framed photo of the actor/comedian jimmie walker ('dyno-miiite'). in the photo, j.j. has a huge grin on his face and he is holding up next to his head a monkey doll. sort of a sock-puppet kind of thing. cartoony monkeys can very easily provoke reference to the turn of the century blackface representations in disney cartoons, dolls and figurines, and of course minstrel shows. i always wondered what was going on in this photo, stripped of all context and placed in a post-ironic hipster bar setting. does it change anything that jimmie walker was the 'official' comedian for the black panther party? i don't know. in any case, i think this article is more interesting:
      http://www.slate.com/id/2187718/

    • ehansen - Apr 01 2008

      a) If you didn't think he had an ape-face why would you feel the need to say "nobody told him to make an ape-face"
      b) is that the truth, or just an opinion?
      c) I may be sarcastic, but that punk comment hurtz.

    • textured - Apr 01 2008

      uh-oh, i stepped into some bullshit.

    • textured - Apr 01 2008

      i will defend you, connie, by attacking eric's dot..

    • textured - Apr 01 2008

      which i see you also already hit up. lols.

  • shiwani - Mar 31 2008 | race, culture, news

    I agree with this author. Race is still so much of an issue in America (as evidenced by Obama's speech, the casting of '21' and this King Kong-ish cover of Vogue) but it's become 'impolite' to talk about it. It's especially sad considering this week (April 4) is the 40th anniversary of MLK's assassination.

    Quoted: No matter how many "courageous" speeches Barack Obama gives, America will never be a "Let's talk about race" kind of place. It'll always be a "Let's talk about how we can't talk about race" kind of place. I'm all for doing my part. I'd like to start by talking about the cover of Vogue's current "shape" issue.

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