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  • shadowpuppetmaster - Mar 02 2008 | movies

    okay, so stage6 is dead, veoh has a decent layout but hardly anything good yet,...and google video (and Youku which is identical) is...the worst.

    does anyone know of somewhere good to watch streaming movies / download divx or other mid-to-high quality movies, without the hassle of torrents?

    help! without distraction, i'm in danger of actually getting work done!!

    Quoted: THIS SUCKS!

    • zerohour - Mar 02 2008

      his face...is the worst...

    • Trefoilknot - Mar 03 2008

      I have been using quicksilverscreen lately. They have begun importing all google, youku, veoh and megavideos (in addition to all their previous divx). They just posted a message that they are single handedly importing all of stage6. (slowly but surely). They keep the labeling distinct so you know what type of file your getting. The site has really exploded. Also all the new google and veoh videos are formatted for easy download for later viewing. Their search function is way better than stage six. You can view all the movies in alphabetical order without having to sift through pages of thumbnails. Their forums are pretty much all the same stuff you would find on movie forumz and everywhere else. If anyone knows of another place that does all this I would be interested to know.

    • shadowpuppetmaster - Mar 04 2008

      i didn't see an easy download key for the google vids, but maybe i'll look again.
      the google vids are also of shit quality mostly.

      but this importing of stage 6 sounds excellent. i hope it happens.

    • textured - Mar 08 2008

      theres always worldcat. just start ordering dvds indiscriminately until they start showing up. its like xmas every day.

    • zerohour - Mar 09 2008

      by the way, i finished plato's 'laws'. in it he has this tirade against the materialists and their atheist-you followers because they're atheists and atheists are bad because the aren't obedient to the state and the state is good because it is guided by the unity of being in the form of the divine soul. it makes me think that the materialists like Archelus are probably way more bad ass than plato and his geriatric robot system for robots.

    • textured - Mar 09 2008

      what about being a materialist or an atheist makes one less obedient to the state? so you are tiring of eating the plankton food then? aristotle is treating me pretty well, although sometimes the endoxic approach can be a bit trying....

    • zerohour - Mar 09 2008

      plato gives an account of the materialists in which their account of the cosmos and nature and politics is a continuous series of relations of force and chance. obviously this doesn't settle well with plato. also, i'd be interested in corroborating someone like Archelus with Xenophon and his account of the education of cyrus. the latter addresses cyrus as a practicioner of the concept that the soul is a set of force relations striving for mastery. what brings xenophon together could (i haven't done my research yet) be that force is not subordinated to a normative ontology, as it is in plato. for plato, force can only be thought under the rubric of natural motion, which is governed by the divine soul, such that force is always either a good relation (when the good in a soul or a state rules over the bad), or a bad relation (when the situation is the opposite).

      i wouldn't say that i'm tired of reading, i mean, eating the plankton paste. i'd just like to situate him with respect to his contemporaries, since his use of sophistic rhetorical strategies (the non-philosophical in the logos that grounds the philosophical though it is disavowed) indicates that he understood philosophy as a weapon to be used against his opponents. so, basically the question is about how one reads plato. i think it would be productive to read him in tandem with his enemies and look at how the exteriority of his corpus is integral to it.

    • textured - Mar 16 2008

      aha!! so i found this thread again. totally random place to start talking about plato, nealist. no wonder i forgot about it.

      so, you are saying that:
      plato => soul as manifold of forces that array into good/bad normativie moral constitutions?

      but if cyrus differs, is it only insofar as there is not a normative 'good' composition to speak of?

      is there any marked difference between this and nietzsche's will-to-power? i guess that's how i'm reading 'force', here, since i don't know crap about archelus or cyrus, so flailing about a bit, struggling to get at what you are talking about.. if force is movement for plato... what kind of movement? kinēsis? or do you mean as immanent to the power of phusis as a genesis? i will stop for fear that i am entirely off the mark.

      one more question, though-- i can see the value in looking to how the non-philosophical draws itself out in plato's discourse, just simply for hermeneutical/historiographical reasons, but is there also something at stake in questioning normativity that you see being addressed in this ancient dispute? again, i can't help but see it through the modern or maybe medieval context of 'force'. maybe schürmann has some insight into it.. i dunno if he discusses this specific dispute anywhere, but he seems to develop the wider problem in depth, at least insofar as it comes up in these later periods in the history of philosophy.

    • textured - Mar 16 2008

      oh also-- what does plato name as 'chance', here? is it fortune (tuchē)? just wondering, since then there would be the endoxic need to address good/bad fortune. does plato maintain that 'the materialists' refuse to acknowledge the good (or the bad) in fortune? or maybe there is another word here..

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