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    FIRE JOE MORGAN
    0 starsdrew_s | Shared With: Everyone - Apr 10 2007 | baseball, media, boston, the herd
    FIRE JOE MORGAN

    In case anyone who cares about stuff like this has missed it, Colin Cowherd is a jerk. He stole material from a UofM fan site w/o giving credit. Then, when he got called on it, he declared war on the sports blogosphere. And he isn't funny and his conception of Baseball Hall of Fame qualifications is crazy.

    Thanks to Derek for introducing me to FJM - I don't mind Joe M. much, but otherwise this blog is spot on and hilarious (if you pay way too much attention to sports media, like me).

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    • derek - Apr 10 2007

      Yeah, taking someone's site down should not go unpunished. He should be suspended, and ESPN should reach into their pockets.

      JM has a good "broadcast voice", and seems like a nice guy. He was also a fantastic baseball player.

      However, the stuff that comes out of his mouth is absolutely hilarious ... he doesn't believe in statistics, and would build his team on "heart" and probably batting average. He also thinks that Billy Beane wrote Moneyball. A recent quote:

      Quoted: We have become a stat-oriented game. Everyone has looked at stats to prove a point. I believe that stats should only embellish a point, not be a point. For instance, I agree there are a lot of players that contribute to their teams winning, but it doesn't show up in the statistics - guys moving base runners, etc. There are so many intangibles that goes with winning that are overlooked. Honestly, I don't see it getting any better because statistics are what we base everything on now.

      [Derek banging head]

    • drew_s - Apr 10 2007

      Yeah, I guess to some extent picking on color analysts is like shooting fish in a barrel - not much more difficult than taking on local columnists and sports talk radio hosts. And I just don't mind Joe, while I mind most of FJM's targets...a lot. Joe's pleasant. He doesn't care about stats; no biggie, doesn't make him a moron. He's not nearly so bad as Tim McCarver. And he works well with John Miller, who is one of the best voices in the biz.

      I did take special note of his "embellish" point during the season opener, though. I agree that the last thing guys like Placido Polanco and David Eckstein need is MORE credit. Hitting w/ guys in scoring position IS a stat. Really, there's a stat for everything. Anyway, on the whole I don't understand many of the numbers that get tossed around, but I understand that production can almost always be quantified.

    • derek - Apr 10 2007

      Yeah, I don't mind Joe's voice, and his misanalysis of baseball is generally entertaining. It doesn't make him a moron ... just a baseball moron. Does that mean he should actually be fired from his job? Probably not.

      Yes, Batting Average w/RISP is a stat ... a mostly useless one, given the small sample size, but a stat nonetheless. And yes, "moving runners along" is rather simple to catalog. But damnit, we cannot measure "heart". If we could, Joe Morgan's favorite players would surely be in the neighborhood of .400 EEU (Eckstein/Erstad Units).

    • mel - Apr 11 2007

      I have nothing to add but I love listening to these conversations... ;-)

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