you bought that book? please say you dint.

why?

i did--partly for conceptual content and partly just to see what a polymer-based book would be like. i actually just read most of it. it's a little disappointing in that most of what's in there is available in that video i dotted a couple days ago. however, there are some concepts in the book that i haven't seen in any of their online writings. specifically their notion that closed technical metabolisms excise the concept of regulation, or, induces a state of auto-regulation with regard to the relation between technical and bio metabolisms--which places their work in a strange relation to neo-liberalism (i'm looking again at Foucault's 'security, territory, population' and anticipating 'birth of biopolitics', btw). One way Foucault defines Neo-liberalism in STP is as seeking the level of effective reality for a population and its millieu in order to effectuate the security conditions under which their crisis and problems (e.g., food shortages) will cancel themselves out or acheive an acceptable frequency. The key shift for Foucault in this regard occurs in the reflections of 18th century physiocrats who constructed politics as a physics or understood politics as immanent to physics in conceptualizing political economy.

i am assuming you saw my various dots about this dude and his associations with 'natural capitalism'? he is so smug on his farts it is an impressive spectacle to see. why buy his book? it is an obvious candidate for ILL.

i didn't see the dots on his natty capi associations, but it's pretty obvious that he has them (pretty much says so in the video that was dotted a while back). i still think there are some interesting things going on with his work with braungart--like the above. and yeah, i could see how he comes off with the smugness, but still--having to develop a model that can integrate the problem of housing a population of 400 million people in the matter of a decade is really interesting from a stiegler/simondonian analysis.

very very interesting.
thank you!

weird that you missed out on this whole conversation that thomas and i were having. you can look back through my old dots if you are curious. some is about a month ago, and some is a few months old. i think his work with china is interesting. but ultimately his claims to retaining any kind of 'natural ecology' are extremely inflated and just self-congratulatory. and his 'the gap' corporate headquarters building makes me retch.

i'll look over the dots.

i looked back through to mid march and didn't see any convos between you and t-rock. do you know which dots they were or what terms i could search for in your dots?